Springfield Republicans Contest Election
GOP members file court documents looking in hopes of overturning election.
Alleging issues with absentee ballots, electronic voting and former residents voting illegally, Springfield Republicans have filed an official contest of election with Superior Court.
James Foerst, the attorney representing the party, said that legal documents questioning the results of the election were filed this week. Following a recount earlier this month, the margin between Democrat Margaret Bandrowski and Republican Jerry Fernandez was reduced from five to four. After reviewing ballots and other election materials, Foerst and his clients believe that there are enough votes in doubt to change the final results.
Most of the alleged voting irregularities stem from the extraordinary circumstances caused by Tropical Storm Sandy. Foerst said that three mail-in ballots were not counted and that residents who attempted to vote electronically were not able to do so due to the technical problems with the county clerk’s office.
“Despite their attempts to vote electronically, they were disenfranchised because the county could not accept their vote,” Foerst said.
In addition, he said his clients have found over a half dozen votes cast by former residents ineligible to vote because they moved away from Springfield.
“They are not legal votes,” he said.
Foerst said that that Superior Court Judge Lisa F. Chrystal, the judge in charge of elections, is expected to review the documents calling for a contested election on Monday, Dec. 31. Foerst said he is arguing that Judge Chrystal should order Springfield to refrain from swearing in Township Committee members and to instead hold a second election.
Bandrowski is set to take the oath of office at Springfield’s annual reorganization meeting on Jan. 1. She said that while she understood why the Republicans are pursuing these legal actions, she was confident she had won the vote.
“They are doing what they feel they have to do and they have the right to exhaust all their legal options,” she said. “However, since the election results have been twice certified, we expect to be sworn in on Tuesday and to serve.”
Former Springfield Township Attorney and Freeholder elect Bruce Bergen said that while he recognized the Republicans are entitled to request court intervention, he questioned whether pursuing legal recourse was in the best interest of Springfield.
"There may have been a close race for one seat, but clearly the voters of Springfield have spoken with a loud voice in rejecting the prior administration," Bergen said in an email. "At some point, in any race, you need to just accept the results and move on. I would suggest now is that time in this contest."
BART FRAENKEL
9:38 am on Friday, December 28, 2012
Apparently they are questioning the integrity of the county now, since that is who certified the recount. This is becoming embarrassing for the township.
B Freeman
10:10 am on Friday, December 28, 2012
Apparently you can't read.
"In addition, he said his clients have found over a half dozen votes cast by former residents ineligible to vote because they moved away from Springfield." The county doesn't check everyone. That is the problem with voting process in this country as a whole. No voter ID required. I could be registered in a dozen different towns and there are no checks and balances. How long do you think it would take the county verify each voter in the books? There is no blame to be placed on county. Each voter that moved away from Springfield knew they weren't allowed to vote in Springfield and failing to change thier voter registration is on them. The problem is that there are no means to verify residency at the polling stations. I wonder how many votes were cast by dead people. Makes you wonder.
Ed Jones
7:18 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Is this the sort of person who should be on our TC?
Barnett should step aside to get his personal business in order
http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2012/12/newly_elected_springfield_comm.html
Princess Valiant
11:12 am on Friday, December 28, 2012
As long as Mr. Shehady is still in the house, expect problems and mud-slinging.
B Freeman
11:22 am on Friday, December 28, 2012
Really, I expect Mr. Shehady to continue to point the ineptitude of the Dems. If you call that mud-slinging, then let it fly!!!!!
I notice that everyone is quick to blame Shehady for everything, but I never hear anyone praising Huber or Amlenfor all their accomplishments. What have they done for Springfield? "Anyone, anyone?" Ferris Beuller
BART FRAENKEL
6:06 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
It's more then likely that Z Freeman is Shehady, but regardless, someone (anyone) please correct me with facts if I am wrong in making this statement. The Union County Clerks office has certified the election results aftere the initial count and then a recount, as requested (and justifiably so) by the Republican candidates. If that is correct, then can we agree that their integrity is being questioned by alleging voter improprieties and further contesting the election?
stephen
12:02 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
I was going to just ignore these nonsense comments but it gets harder and harder to ignore the usual cast of nutcases. If anything, people like Leila (or Chrys as we all really know her), Bart and the usual Shehady-hating aliases don't help their case at all - at first, you wonder if what they say about him is true but my wife and I have talked to him on many occasions and haven't seen any of it to be true. They just keep ranting and raving so they look crazier and crazier. It's pretty sad - find a new obsession. Or don't and keep sounding more insane. It's just comical how you find anyway to point the finger at Shehady when it doesn't even involve him. It must be true about the Springfield democrats - they're scared of change and scared of Shehady. They need a figurehead to point the finger and hope to distract us from the years of decline they were responsible for. My circle of parents/friends are not interested in the politics - we're interested in someone who can take charge and get things done. We didn't have that for a long time and we're not gullible to believe that the same group that did nothing is going to be able to suddenly change their ways when it's the same names involved. The biggest joke and embarrassment for this town are the two candidates the Democrats ran. Springfield had two people who have actually tried to change our town for the better and we lost them. That's a real shame. Let's see what the next year or ten bring for us!
BART FRAENKEL
6:19 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Stephen, if you noticed I didn't mention Shehady in my original post, he was brought up by others. That said, I will not argue or deny that I dislike him, not for his beliefs but for the methods he has used and the opportunity he was given to continue with an open and cohesive TC. He fragmented the TC into an us against them mentality that has been detrimental to our community as it relates to working together. Members of the TC should be able to offer differing opinions that are discussed with one another and when a decision is reached, all should accept the majority's decision. In all fairness, the Democrats prior to 2007 (Ken Faigenbaum was mayor that year) had done the same thing, and from 2007 to 2009 every member of the TC, regardless of party affiliation, was given equal opportunity and authority to work on behalf of the community and to bring up issues on the TC meeting agenda for discussion. But that changed in 2010, Shehady's first year as mayor. He removed any issue from the agenda that he did not approve and used his legal authority as chairman of the meeting to do so. Therefore, while he didn't do anything illegal, his methods certainly were not in the best interest of the town. I don't know if you are one of his supporters or even him hiding behind another fictitious name, but either way no individual on the TC should ever get singluar credit for anything accomplished; it should always be a group effort.
bob groder
12:39 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
My reply to leila is this: in 1972 the USA olympic basketball team won the gold medal game against the soviets but due to the clock error they replayed the last few seconds of the game. then they claimed another error so they replayed it for a 3rd time and this 3rd time the russians threw the ball the length of the court to win the game at the buzzer and in the process "stealing" the gold medal away from the usa team.
I often like to compare politics to sports because both always have "causes" to fight for. in this case Leila is right Mr. Shehady will fight with every means possible until he gets his way. this is just ugly politics at its worst. im fed up with this stupid fight over a seat which still wont give the republicans a majority ( an im an independent). Mr. Shehady always does whats good for his "team" even if from what i heard mr. Fernandez was allegedly ready to throw in the towel.
Even if they win in court and get a special election to try and win back 1 seat they would still be in the minority 2-3 and cant change anything major.
my question is WHY WASTE MORE TAXPAYER MONEY on this issue? I agree with Mr. Bergen and lets just move forward and I say try to unite both sides to try and get along so they can govern and try to save taxpayers money whenever its logically possible....
part 2 coming up.....
B Freeman
7:47 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Mr. Groder, since you like to compare sports to politics then consider this as overtime.
Of course you would agree with Mr. Bergen, his candidates currently have the numbers and if his candiates lost by 4 votes he would be in court so fast it would make your head spin.
bob groder
12:39 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Times are bad enough with this fiscal cliff about to take place so does springfield really need to have more expenses added at the taxpayers expense? my opinion is this. if this was reverse would the dems. do the same thing and make a big stink by going to court and i say no they wouldnt.
B Freeman
1:50 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Bob, really what does the fiscal have to do with the vote.
If the vote was a 700 difference like it was at the top of the ticket. No one would care and no effort to contest it would be in place. However, 4 votes difference at the bottom of ticket, they better make a big stick about and use ever means available to verify the "true". Naive of you to think that the Dems wouldn't do the same thing. I would hope and expect them too as well. That is the democratic process and if the vote favors a differnt outcome then so be it. That is true democracy. The problem with you Bob, you are Democrat and are afraid your candidates might not get in. So to quote you, "Get over it."
Jeff strumpf
12:41 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Quite frankly I am happy that the election is being contested as I do not nth ink the actually outcome reflects the trie sentiments of those in e mainstream in Springfield
I've heard rumblings for years about the back room things that take place by the democrats to gathee votes by scaring out of touch seniors with half truths (who just happen to be democrats) votes from those who no longer live in town but still may have rental properties in Springfield and other shenanigans with absentee ballots filled out by senile voters who don't know a candidate from a sport on the wall
Let there be a new election without technical issues associated with a storm or other distractions for a fair election to actually occur
BART FRAENKEL
6:33 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Jeff, where were you when Florida had their problems with 'handing chads'. lol
You should know better then to perpetuate rumors about improper activities behind closed doors. The reality of this is that after 2 supervised counts of the election votes, the Democratic candidates still won, regardless of by how many. I felt the Republicans were absolutely correct in requesting the initial recount.. But now allegations have been made by Shehady and others about voting irregularities and despite having been reviewed by the proper authority, it is starting to appear like an effort to discredit the newly elected members and create problems for them going forward. How is that beneficial to the town?
bob groder
12:42 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
as for stephen you dont know mr shehady like many of us do and yes he is behind this suit. I know enough people in town who told me allgedely that mr. fernandez was ready to give up the fight but mr. shehady allgedely wont give up the fight even though others wanted to just let this fight end.
NO GOOD CAN COME OF THIS. even if they win they lose. they still wont have a majority no matter how many times they try to change the results of the election. Mr. Barnett's seat isnt a question here only the seat between Margaret & Jerry is. This is just wasting more taxpayer money as if they get a new election to take place someone has to pay for it. guess who that is? the taxpayers of springfield thats who.
ENOUGH ALREADY!
B Freeman
1:52 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Another ignorant statement by Bob. If they win then they are the true winners Bob. That is not only good, but great for Springfield. Enough of your whinning, Bob, get over it.
bob groder
12:48 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Mr. Strumpf do you realize that a new election will cost the taxpayers of springfield more money and even if they win what can it accomplish? they cant gain the majority back regardless as only the 1 seat is all they can contest. id agree with this if the committe would go back to a republican majority 3-2 with a win in court but since they are already down 4-1 they cant do any good here for the town?
Leila is also right everyone is entitled to their own opinions here and if you disagree with someone calling them "crazy" or a "hater" is just wrong. I dont agree with lots of people on the patch but ill never resort to calling them names simply because i disagree with them.
Lets just get this resolved and move on to 2013 so the town can try and move forward with its township business instead of all of this hate between the parties involved.
Shane Ronan
1:21 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
No one knows what relief the judge might order until the judge orders it. All of this back and forth won't change anything. Lets wait and see what the judge has to say.
B Freeman
1:57 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Ignorant statement #2 from Bob. Shane is right, you can't predict what the Judge might rule in favor of doing or not doing. The cost doesn't matter, that is the price of living in a democracy Bob. You're Bob on one statement, let's get it resolved and know the real outcome that Springfielders want and not just accept it as a matter of convienence to you.
Vor
4:49 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Just a question? How many of these posts are written by Shehady? I have read he has so many patch aliases its hard to keep track. You just can't trust the guy. Especially now that he is "clinging to his thrown". Its obvious he's behind the newest ordeal. Hasn't mr. fernandez been through enough? He took the fall for shahady's bad decisions and behavior. Time to let it go! Let the guy get on with his life.
bob groder
5:43 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
well said Vor.
B Freeman
10:21 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
First of all Vor, I think Mr. Fernandez and Mr. Krauss did plenty oon their own with Mr. Shehady. To say that they lost becuase of Shehady's so called behavoir is just campaign rhetoric to scare voters into voting for Barnett and Bandrowski. They labeled Fernandez and Krauss as puppets. What do you think Amlen and Huber and former Mayor Keffer are. You don't think Barnett and Bergen were pulling strings for those lame ducks.
How many aliases does Vor (Bart) have here..sure he logs on as himself to seem all righteous then he logs on 5 minutes later as someone else.
BART FRANKEL
10:40 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
I don't know, how many aliases does he have?
BART FRANKEL
3:53 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
What bad decisions of Mr. Shehady did Mr. Fernandez take the fall for?
bob groder
5:33 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Mr. Freeman: it has nothing to do with the committee. All i was pointing out is they cant agree on anything in DC and pretty much this is how it is in springfield. otherwise the comparison has no other purpose. I was just making my own analogy on how politics seem to be no matter where they take place.
bob groder
5:42 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Also Mr. Freeman, there is nothing for me to get over as im a true independent. for example for president I vote differently than I do for township committee. i did vote for romney for but for township committee i voted democrat and in other elections I have voted republican for TC but i admit im loyal to the dems in town for the reason that I do like what they stand for and also are willing to work with citizens in town and mr. Shehady was not.. so to call me a democrat is outright comical and ludicrous. as for "getting over it" im not the one making a mountain out of molehill. in this case that is mr shehady as I now have been told 1st hand that mr. Fernadez had said he wanted to throw in the towel but mr. Shehady wouldnt let him. If the republicans win a new election should one be ordered ill be the 1st 1 to shake their hand but i will then watch my wallet as all they do was spend money when it wasnt necessary in my opinion. thats what independents do they offer congrats no matter who wins.
you just passed a judgement about me and have made a totally false statement. (ala the polifact in the star ledger)
mr freedman as its obvious ytou are 1 of ziads people and all republcans do is whine and bad mouth others i wont stoop to your level. you can keep talking all the lies you wish about me and my opinions. i dont agree with anything you say but you are entitled to your opinion wrong or right. you obviously dont believe in freedom of speech.
bob groder
5:48 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
stop complaining so much yes i do. in fact i only fight it in court if I know im right which i have done very rarely but the last time i contested a ticket that I can recall was back in 1981 or so in another town and i did in fact get it dropped.
i agree with 1 statement on here all day from anyone which is shanes. I just was stating my opinion on what a waste of time and money this whole process is especially when mr fernandez wanted to give up the fight.
to answer vor i dont know how manhy aliias's mr shehady has on here but who really cares the people in the know in town know about it and have proven him to do so once before. i truly could care less who hides on the patch and who doesnt. i speak my mind weather people agree with me or not. but unlike mr freeman who likes to put people down who dont agree with him i always give people the courtesy of speaking and hearing their opinions weather i agree or not. mr freeman if you dont agree with him just calls you "ignorant"
bob groder
5:52 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
anonimous ..I have heard allegedly that B freeman is 1 of ziad's aliases too but again i could care less if it is or isnt. the gentleman has no common courtesy as if you disagree with him he calls you "ignorant". If i went by his comments id be the most ignorant person in springfield lol. this is clearly you know whos writing style but im not going to accuse anyone. besides the more he talks the more he puts his foot in his mouth by making false statements about others and make me chuckle.
B Freeman
10:13 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
You know Bob, I'm just curous, now that Mr. Shehady is no longer going to be Mayor could you please kindly explain your comments regarding how the charter study was a power grab him without citing the misleading campaign rhetoric from the Democrats. While you are at it please explain why the Dems endorsed 4 candidates for the charter study if they were so against. Wouldn't you say that was a power grab to have the outcome go their way, espcially with former mayor keffer now as the committee chairman?
Jerry Fernandez
6:48 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Of course I know I am going to regret writing on this, but need to clear some things up for Mr Groder. 1) I was never throwing in the towel. Votes were taken away from me because signatures did not match... how weird is that one. I want a fair vote and I can live with any result that comes with a "fair result" and I guess a judge will make that call. 2) How you all forget that Marc and I served one year out of three with out Mayor Shehady. 3) It is important to have a second person up there from the same party, in the fact that you can second items, and when items are second a healthy debate can occur. I would hope we never have just one party up there making all the decisions and not allowing debate. Mr Groder you seem to hear only one side of the issues and have only gotten involved recently you only hear what you want. And Bart with all due respect, if these results came out to you this way, you would do the same things we are. I mean that with no disrespect but knowing your competitive manner you would be in that courtroom before anyone else.
BART FRAENKEL
1:03 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012
Jerry, I would definitely request a recount if I were in your situation and I stated that. But I would also accept the results after the decision was rendered. If you or anyone else is saying there is evidence that voting improprieties took place, then PLEASE just say it. If there are factual events that require further legal action, then pursue it. But if you only have allegations, that's what is embarrassing for the town.
As for having 2 members from the same party on the TC in order to raise and second a motion, I'll ask the same question I've asked before. If everyone on the TC is working for the best interest of the town, why can't there be open dialogue between the members in an open meeting if one person wants to discuss an issue? We always allowed anyone to bring up whatever they'd like and the amount of time spent discussing it was based on how much interest the majority felt it justified. If Shehady didn't want something discussed, he didn't allow it as per the rules of order. Every member should be allowed to discuss whatever they'd like.
One last thing since you brought it up. The year you and Marc were the only Republicans on the TC, Shehady attended most meetings with his laptop communicating with you in particular and possibly Marc, too.
By the way, I only post under this account and my name despite what anyone else would like to believe.
BART FRANKEL
11:10 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012
Because you hacked into his computer and were able to see what he was typing and to who - during the meetings? Or just an assumption?
bob groder
10:28 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
Hi jerry. I want to wish you and your family a happy new year. i also want to address your comments from friday as i was not online all weekend.
# 1 you were overheard by county officials at the recount saying something like whats done is done or time to move on. i dont have the exact words but you were overheard saying something to the effect that you more or less were going to accept the decision.
# 2. it is 100% your right to file the suit & i respect you posting as yourself and you have my respect for doing this. I just dont see how this will help the town come together & get ready for 2013. speaking of which you can always run again in 2013.
# 3. i want a fair vote too but from what i know of the county a count & recount has been done so i dont know what could possibly be changed from this result. it was a close vote & you should be commended for putting forth a good campaign.
#4. Mr. amlen has told me to keep coming to meetings & if i disagree with him on anything to speak out on it & i intend to do so. i welcome you to do the same. in fact i feel your voice would be an important one at meetings. i truly respect you as a person. i just didnt agree that in MY OPINION you didnt vote all the time with your beliefs. again this is just my opinion. its not heresay.
#5. in the year when ziad wasnt in office in 2011 he sat in the back & communicated info to you during the meetings via his laptop. this was seen by others on the tc names not necessary.
Louis Herkalo
1:40 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
Jerry,
Why waste more of the taxpayers dollars, concede & give control back to the Democrats. The Mayor made the accusation that fraud was involved. Come on, in a little township there is going to be a conspiracy to unseat the 2 of you? You lost. The re-count also proved you lost. What are you going to do if this Judge says you lost? Take it to the Supreme Court? Maybe there you might have a shot just as George W. did when they handed him the Pesidency! Get over it. Cut the strings that the Republican Party are pulling on the 3 Committee puppets! Time for some fresh blood to take over!
Vor
8:21 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
I would have to agree with Bart on this one. If mr Fernandez is only interested in winning to blindly follow Shehady - he does not have my vote or sympathy. He should learn this is what cost him the election in the first place. Agree/ second the idea - not the person or party. Have your own opinion and voice. This is what our town needs!- not partisan politics.
Vor
9:29 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Point well taken. Mr Fernandez needs to seperate from shehady if he wants to have a future in politics. Shehady is the cause for his demise. I believe he has good intentions, but he will not get my vote as a follower
B Freeman
10:23 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
So Vor you think Huber and Amlen are these indpendent thinkers who aren't influenced by Bergen and the rest of the Dems that sit in the back of corner during town hall meetings taking notes.
bob groder
10:37 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
i agree vor. i prefer voting for people who lead not follow. mr huber for example voted for the turf field because he believes in athletics. i didnt agree with it but his explanation convinced me he was voting for what he felt was right,. this is all i ask of anyone who is on the tc. i hope 2013 to see this take place be it 4-1 or 3-2 democrats.
Vor
10:02 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
A follower will never get my vote. The ONLY reason Fernandez ( and kraus) lost this election is because of Shehady's bad behavior and choices. If Mr fernandez really cares about this town he will start thinking for himself. in my opinion, he made some bad decisions he regrets which ultimately cost him the election. Learn from past mistakes and move forward.
Brett Biebelberg
11:56 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
The only plausible reason Jerry and Marc lost this election is because it fell during a general election, when way more voters turn out to the polls just to vote for President who are otherwise unlikely to be informed in local township affairs. Since Springfield generally votes democratically (as indicated in the number of Springfield voters who voted for Obama v. Romney), people who turned out to vote for the president who otherwise wouldn't have turned out to vote in all likelihood just voted down the Democratic column. Compare the Obama - Romney difference to the Barnett/Bandrowski - Fernandez/Krauss difference and it is clear (and drastically smaller). There was not a several-hundred-vote difference like there was between Obama and Romney in favor of Obama. The cogent conclusion is that Barnett and Bandrowski received additional Democratic votes for the sole reason that their names were in the Democratic column during a general election, and would have received significantly fewer votes in a non-presidential election. A runoff election would surely show this to be the case.
Bruce Bergen's statement that "there may have been a close race for one seat, but clearly the voters of Springfield have spoken with a loud voice in rejecting the prior administration..." is laughable at best. Voters spoke with a loud voice of hundreds of voice in choosing Obama. A difference of four votes (or even 100 votes) is by no means a loud voice of rejection.
BART FRANKEL
11:18 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012
Agreed. It was even the Democrat strategy. Their billboard said "Vote Column A" Democratic (I think it was "A"). The majority of people have no idea who the local politicians are. To a small er extent, the storm also had a negative effect on the ability to get to a poll. And, while the Mayor was praised heavily for his actions during the storm (all well deserved), there was definitely a growing anti-Shehady sentiment around town (if you follow the various Facebook pages, or just in general conversations) that I'm sure had an affect on the Krauss/Fernandez votes.
bob groder
10:39 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
mr. fernandez should come to meetings in 2013 and voice his opinion. let him try to win back the voters if he intends on running again. if he runs again he needs to vote as himself not what his party wants. that practice is bad enough in trenton and dc but we dont need it in springfield.
Vor
11:29 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
For the record- not Bart.
BART FRAENKEL
1:09 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012
Brett, you are 100% correct about the number of registered Democrats compared to Republicans in Springfield, and that in a general election, and a presidential election at that, it is extremely difficult for any Republican to win. Jerry did a very admirable job in the number of votes he received, and I think many people felt his heart was in the right place. Unfortunately for him, I also think that Bob Groder was right in saying Jerry (and Marc for that matter) lost votes based on the anti-Shehady feelings of many people. The election was much much closer then anyone expected, but let's move on already.
B Freeman
9:05 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012
Brett is 100% correct and Bart is 100% wrong. The only anti-Shehady feelings out there are Bart's personal feelings towards Mr. Shehady and the ones created by Bandrowski and Barnett in there campaign literature. Let's not forget that disgusting letter to the editor from Mr. Amlen during Hurricane Sandy when Mr. Amlen abandoned Springfield in its moment of need.
BART FRANKEL
11:08 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012
Oh my - quite a few residents had anti-Shehady sentiments. Evident in conversations all around town.
B Freeman
3:19 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
Oh my indeed not Bart. The only ones who have those sentitments are those you associate with and fill their heads with your nonsense. The vast majority approve of Shehady and don't buy your personal hate message or Barnett Bandrowski's campaign of lies. So the few you mentioned are just that few and far between.
Vor
10:03 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012
Interesting how many of B freeman and Anthony D posts are gone. Damage control?
bob groder
9:45 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
ive been told again via hearsay that b freeman is allegedely mayor shehady ( soon to be former mayor on january 1) hence nothing he says is to be taken seriously. i dont agree with everything mr fernandez said but he has the guts to speak for himself and he gets my respect for that. i also think that mr amlen wont be on the patch more than once a month with his mayors letter. he doesnt have the time to log on and use alias names like so many do on here. he has told me he doesnt think that public officials should post on the patch as committmen & women but should only post as themsevles the citizen like anyone else. i happen to agree with this thought.
B Freeman
10:28 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
Intersting Vor thjat you hide behind your screen name and acuse everyone of being someone else.
Interesting how there is now a BFreeman posting to look like my postings.
BTW Bob...how do you like Mr. Barnett now? SEC Fraud. What other violations has he committed and didn't get caught? This is the guy you want running your town?
Louis Herkalo
12:59 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
The bottom line is the Republican's lost and they just don't want to concede! I loved the the one Quote Mayor Sheehady made in one of the articles "that it looks looks like it was fraud, but mabe it wasn't"! What is costing the Township for the recount & now the losers are going to contest the election? Stop acting like litte children, concede, give control back to the Democrats so 1st there will be a new Mayor that will have a head on his or her shoulders & get more things done to move Springfield in the right direction!
B Freeman
3:25 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
The botton line Louie is that you hate Shehady. You concede when there is a clear mandate from the people. You don't concede when it suits you or Bob Groder. I have know doubt there are plenty of votes that shouldn't count because someone voted in Springfield when they weren't entitled to vote here and should have voted where they currently reside and not where they use to. So those votes should be thrown out.
Vor
3:32 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
Either way there will be no sweeter sound than Shehady's silence on jan 1. This is what we cal accountability. Long overdue.
bob groder
9:47 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
dont be so sure. he doesnt know how to be silent.
Mark W
3:57 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
People stop this nonsense. Seems like Leila, Bob Groder and Bart need a platform to voice their opinions. The reason why Mr. Fernandez and Mr. Krauss lost was two fold. One people of Springfield who did not have power blamed it on the incumbents. Which was wrong since they did an outstanding job throughout the loss of power. Two the reorganization of the Board of Health. Stop bashing Mayor Shehady
BART FRANKEL
4:07 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
Cool, now we know why they lost. Thanks! Yes, they did an outstanding job during the loss of power. But what exactly did the people of Springfield who did not have power blame on the incumbents? (and isn't the reorganization of the BOH considered a big thing?). I just want to make sure I understand your comment. Thanks in advance for your explanation.
bob groder
9:50 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
3 issues mark # 1, the break up of the autonomous board of health for # 2 as he had this in his mind since march to fire westfield & hire madison # 3. the turf field as without the support of rich it wouldnt have happened. i give rich credit for voting his thoughts and beliefs which is not something mr fernandez did. i have told him if he voted with his beliefs and not along party lines he would have probably gotten my vote.
bob groder
10:49 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
thank goodness that on january 1st the board of health is being reorganized back the way it should have been all along. there is a bill being introduced right away to fix a wrong done by mr shehady. they will keep madison which i agree with since we have a contract with them but they will be watched and scrutinized closely. an autonomous board of health is the right way to go. they keep businesses honest. i hated the politics of 2012 and hope 2013 becomes "more about springfield and less about politics."
bob groder
10:57 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
dont forget the hiring of madison when over 40 people spoke out against the firing of westfield.
Louis Herkalo
1:28 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
Why should they stop bashing Seehady? He was to immature & too young to be the Mayor of Township of Springfield! I think he got lessons from Gov. Christie on how to handle the citizens of Springfield! He was ignorant, he put people down, screamed at people, etc. I will keep bringing this point up becase it is public record & it's my right to speak about it! If the Democrats went after Sheehdy's arrests for DUI & Failure to appear while serving on the TC, he would not have been re-elected! He only won by 56 votes! That alone was telling him something, but if they kept pushing the DUI/Arrest issues, Sheehady would have lost. He goes around with that attitude that he is better then everyone else & he is above the law. There is also a rumor that the Mayor is not even a resident of Springfield, that he lives in Hillside & uses his parents address to get by!
BART FRAENKEL
6:17 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
It would be nice if you posted under your own name or something more original then using my name spelled differently.
BART FRANKEL
6:49 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
Since it is spelled differently, it is not your name.
BART FRANKEL
7:09 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
That Ziad, he's a sneaky one.
bob groder
11:00 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
hey bart when someone wants to immitate you its a from of flattery. i find it amusing, keep it up im sure bart is laughing like i am lol
Shane Ronan
11:17 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
How about EVERYONE here stops whining, arguing and complaining.
FACT: Mr. Krauss and Mr. Fernandez are well within their legal rights to file the lawsuit that they have.
FACT: Some of us like Mr. Shehady and some of us don't.
FACT: The judge will decide on Monday what happens next.
FACT: Regardless of the decision not everyone will be happy.
bob groder
9:55 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
i totallyagree shane. noone will be 100% happy. i just dont want to see more township money wasted than is necessary. and the judge is away and so you know wont rule until wednesday january 2. there is no hearing on dec 31. if the timing works i will try to attend the hearing as i want to see how the process works 1st hand. no hearsay.
Louis Herkalo
1:54 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
Then someone can write a conspiracy theory book if they lose for the 3rd time! I'll say it again; it's the "King Baby Syndrome". I want, what I want, when I want It. What's going to happen @ the next kids soccer game? One team is going to say they won, the other is going to say they tied. What are you going to bring a Judge into decide that. Sometimes I think the kids act more like adults than the adults do! This is a great way to teach your kids sportsmanship,winning & losing. Not going around pouting like a 2 yr. old who didn't get his/her way!!
BART FRAENKEL
11:39 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
100% correct Shane.
Mark W
8:50 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Bart what don't you get. When a family does not have power for 2 weeks they look to put blame on someone and instead of blaming JCP&L people blamed the incumbents. I understand you don't like the mayor but I only hope you will be so vocal when Mr. Amlen takes office as mayor. Oh and by the way interesting article on nj.com about Mr. Barnett. No comment Bart.
BART FRAENKEL
12:03 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
If the new majority does something I feel is wrong then I will definitely express myself the same way. The things that I haven't liked with the current mayor is how things were done moreso then the ultimate result. As a former TC member I understand how things work and I have been very disappointed in the methods that were used to maintain control (power). No individual has ultimate power in the township committee form of government and that's what makes it work best. Unfortunately party politics (from both sides over the years) usually taint the system anyway.
BFreeman
8:58 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Someone obviously has something to hide with all these alleged shehady aliases being removed. In order to be thorough - you should probable remove the one where shehady allegedly poses as a mother of 3 living on Laurel in the basketball hoops letter to the editor.http://springfield.patch.com/articles/letter-to-the-editor-taking-down-the-basketball-hoop-at-laurel-park
David Jacob
12:05 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
What alleged aliases have been removed? Who's alleging? Based on what fact? If anyone has something to hide, it's this...
"“Alwine and Barnett used crooked tactics...” said Andrew M. Calamari, Director of the SEC’s New York Regional Office. “The SEC will continue to root out accounting fraud and punish the executives responsible.”
"The co-presidents of the subsidiary – Gregg Alwine and David Barnett – entered into sham transactions."
"They also fabricated and backdated contracts and other documents to facilitate the fraudulent accounting. Barnett is additionally charged with misleading TheStreet’s auditor"
How is it that he is "barred from serving as officers or directors of a public company for 10 years" but isn't barred from public office - where he will be an officer of an organization of 15,000 residents, over 100 employees and a budget of over $25 million? Thanks for looking out for us SEC!
bob groder
9:57 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
why are the alleged shahady names being removed? because they dont belong in the 1st place. i wish the patch made everyone post with their real name and not be allowed to have fake names such as annimous and other misspellings lol.
Lawrence Dvorchik
11:30 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012
It's incredible to watch the party politics that go on in this town. i am a registered Democrat, but do not vote "party lines". I have worked with Mr. Fernandez over the last few years with the recreation Department, and can vouch for his desire and commitment to do what is right. Given the fact that the difference was a mere 4 votes, and the impact Sandy had on the process (I myself had to vote in Westfield early), I can understand the questioning around the final outcome. While I don not agree with most of Mayor Shehady's decisions or positions, I do thank him for his service, and appreciate the fact that he put forth the effort.
But the reality is that is it's tme to put party politics aside, and start focusing on what is best for the residents of Springfield. For far too long this has not happened, and I only hope whatever the new administration is they can do this in 2013
bob groder
10:00 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
im an independent who votes for both democrats and republicans. for the president i voted republican but for the town democrat. i see nothing wrong with that. i also thank for shehady for his service as he did a good job for certain things but his handling of people at township meetings and board of health meetings is not desirable. i dont know a single person who felt they got treated fairiy at meetings if you opposed the 2012 mayor. come 2013 amlen knows and has told me to my face if i disagree with him on anything i should say how i feel without fear or repercussion.
Leila
11:56 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012
This is THE platform to discuss issues related to the election otherwise the Patch wouldn’t have written the piece and allowed room for people to comment. Posting facts, especially when it is backed up by links, is absolutely NOT bashing someone. It shows fairness and evidences what is being posted. Bashing seems to be a word used to sidetrack people from ‘thinking’ and ‘questioning' policies and decisions. It has certainly opened up a lively discussion that questions that somewhere along the line there may be something incongruous concerning a particular situation. Pointing out a piece of information that is related and relevant to a story is NOT bashing, it shows correlation/good way in allowing people to consolidate it all and making up their mind on how they feel about it. Nowhere here have I accused anyone person who has made a comment of being crazy, lazy or hazy and these name callings reveal lack of poise, because no matter how strongly one feels about a particular topic, one should, at the very minimum, refrain from directly offending a person who is commenting and bringing to light their opinion on the subject. Focusing on the issue and bringing to light evidence that contributes to the support/opposition of a particular issue is a fair and intelligent way to debate.
Mark W
3:43 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Leila, yes this is the platform but over 10 posts really. Chrys don't you have anything else to do. You are always negative try bringing up something positive in town. Also please don't feel it necessary to respond. You had the same babble about the turf field and didn't have your facts correct. Please stop
bob groder
10:04 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
i try to keep my comments honest but in no way do i go out and attack others for their opinions like b freeman does ( allegedely he is mr shehady and others have told me this as well and its his writing style which convinces me its him) i respect anyone for their thoughts even if i disagree with them. i dont need to attack anyone on here unless im defending myself which im doing when it comes ot mr fernandez's reply to me. he has my respect for posting as himself. i really wanted to vote for him but his being alligned with ziad lost my vote.
David Jacob
12:03 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Mark W - is this what you're referring to?
http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2012/12/newly_elected_springfield_comm.html
That is even more incredible!
"“Alwine and Barnett used crooked tactics...” said Andrew M. Calamari, Director of the SEC’s New York Regional Office. “The SEC will continue to root out accounting fraud and punish the executives responsible.”
"The co-presidents of the subsidiary – Gregg Alwine and David Barnett – entered into sham transactions."
"They also fabricated and backdated contracts and other documents to facilitate the fraudulent accounting. Barnett is additionally charged with misleading TheStreet’s auditor"
How is it that he is "barred from serving as officers or directors of a public company for 10 years" but isn't barred from public office - where he will be an officer of an organization of 15,000 residents, over 100 employees and a budget of over $25 million? Thanks for looking out for us SEC!
Mark W
3:35 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Dana Jacob yes that is the article. Incredible isn't it, I agree with you how is he allowed to hold office. He should resign
Princess Valiant
11:20 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
I just read this on NJ.com. I'm disgusted and embarassed for Springfield. Just think what that $130,000 fine would have meant as a boost to Springfield's economy. Mr. Barnett, you may have 'won' the election, but I believe you must NOT be sworn in tomorrow. I agree with Dana Jacob with a thanks to SEC, great timing, folks! And no, I am not Mr. Shehady!!!
Shore Girl
12:11 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Money saved from garbage pickup will probably be used for legal fees!! What ajoke!!!
David Jacob
6:46 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Very few of anyone posted during the Hurricane since there was no power. Nice try though!
Leila
7:34 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Mark W, if that is even your name, you don't have it right for sure, and telling someone to be quiet is a pathetic. You can say your babble, but when someone makes a good point you call it 'babble'. Grow up!
Mark W
8:17 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Leila I don't hide behind false names like you. I said if you check my post that your babble on the turf field was wrong. Everyone is entitled to your opinions just make sure you get your facts correct. I never called you names but I think you have to much time on your hands Chrys. Lets not go on but I know you have to answer and yes I am Mark W
BART FRAENKEL
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Mark W, where have you been? I ran under The Springfield Party 2 years ago, with the belief that the only people I need to be concerned about are the people of Springfield---and not under any political pressure.
Mark W
12:26 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
Bart, and dirty political tactics by both parties Republican and Democrats make it nearly impossible for 3rd parties to win. Believe me Bart I grew up in this town and have seen it all. I do believe Mr. Fernandez would have been a better choice but the Democrats won and it is time to move forward. I hope Mr. Amlen will be effective but I have my doubts. I am sure you read the article on Mr.Barnett on nj.com. He should resign.
B Freeman
10:55 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2012/lr22575.htm
Here you go Bob - Read all about.
bob groder
11:15 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
people need to remember why jerry lost in the 1st place. this issue didnt help:
http://springfield.patch.com/articles/health-board-debate-marked-by-rancor-tensions
by the way this wrong is being corrected at the january 1 meeting with the introduction of a new ordinance.
B Freeman
11:34 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
So Bob, you're a political analyst?
Mr. Fernandez and Mr. Krauss didn't lose based on a single issue or event.
Mr. Beibelberg stated it very well above.
So Bob, you don't think the negative campaign literature mailed to the all residents in Springfield had anything to do with it?
Bob you are so politically naive its funny.
B Freeman
10:56 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2012/comp22575-1.pdf
Here is the court document.
BART FRAENKEL
11:32 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
Is anyone else curious how Z Freeman has access to the court documents?
B Freeman
11:37 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
Mr. Fraenkel..it's called the internet.
Go to the link. It's a government website.
No secret to accessing it.
bob groder
11:08 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
this just in: a judge did hear part of this case this morning and rejected there was proof in the voting irregularities. now the judge scheduled to hear the case on wednesday janaury 2 will set up a hearing sometime in the next 30 days for if i read it right a final hearing on this matter. this issue isnt going away anytime soon. ill just sit back and let the legal process do its thing but i want to attend the final hearing once it takes place.
B Freeman
11:09 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
SEC Press release ...interesting reading
Interesting choice of words used by the SEC.
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2012/2012-270.htm
B Freeman
11:21 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
The best one yet.
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2012/comp-pr2012-264-alwine-barnett.pdf
BART FRAENKEL
11:37 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
I'm surprised the legal issue with Mr. Barnett didn't come to light during the campaign. But given that the legal system has rendered its decision and all penalties have been issued, I don't see this as anything different then a sitting TC member being issued a motor vehicle summons for DUI.
B Freeman
11:52 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
Mr. Fraenkel..the difference is simple. One is under the influence and the other is not. Mr. Barnett's alleged actions affect many poeple and larges amounts of money according to the documents on the internet and brings into question, what else has he allegedly done that we don't know about? This is type of person you want making decisions for your town?
Mark W
1:01 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
Bart are you really serious. If it was Mr.Shehady instead of Mr. Barnett you would have wanted him jailed.Talk about being impartial but you are not. Mr. Barnett should resign since the town can not trust him. I hope in 2013 you will be as vocal but I doubt it.
BART FRAENKEL
1:49 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
Mark W, you obviously don't know me well enough because you are completely wrong. And please don't misunderstand, I have not said anything in regard to approving what occurred wtih Mr. Barnett. What I was attempting to show is that any issue that is illegal and addressed by the legal system (meaning a decision was rendered and penalties/punishment, if any, was metted out) should all result in disqualification from office or only capital crimes. I don't know the exact percerntage, but there are quite a few members of Congress and the Senate that have had legal problems such as these. Again, I don't agree that its right, but unless and until the laws are changed we have to accept it.
If I felt differently, then I would have made numerous comments about the DUI incident and I didn't.
B Freeman
1:57 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
That's right Mr.Fraenkal, you've said nothing about Mr. Barnett's conduct or character. Why not? You always want to bring it back Mr. Shehady. So based on your logical, a speeding ticket or parking violation equates to what Mr. Barnett did?
bob groder
1:01 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
im only naive if i believe that b freeman isnt soon to be former mayor shehady. i love the sound of that. lol.
this is whats wrong with most people on here as i dont go on here to insult anyone but just like at tc meetings if you disagree with the mayor in 2012 you get berated. i find it very cooicidental that b freeman acts just like mr shehady does. and i find it funny that no matter what i say im naive or ignorant because i dont agree with republican thinking in springfield. i dont agree with anything you say but thank goodness i was brought up to treat people with respect even though they dont deserve it. (b freeman).
keep insulting me calling me ignorant and whatever choice names you choose to give me. at least i have the guts to post as myself.
and i stand by what i said earlier which is jerry has my respect for posting as himself and talking direct to my face unlike fake posters on here. ( way too many to keep count)
B Freeman
1:39 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
Bob, wheter you like it or not you seem to be the official spokesperson for the Springfield Democratic Party and whatever independence you claim from party politics you lean one way in Springfield. You naivity comes from your lack of credicble information. Quoting a hearsay is more gossip than fact and closer to half truths.
I am not Ziad, despite what you or Mr. Fraenkal think or assume. You may not be the real Bob Groder. I've seen Bob Groder on the public access channel. That Bob is lamb compared to lion on the Patch. I would say Mr. Fraenkal posts as himself, but I believe it is not beyond him to post under aliasses as well. I use naive and ignorant Mr. Groder, because that is what your portray. You stated in other posts that you are new to town politics, that also makes you a novice.
BART FRAENKEL
1:57 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
@Not My Real Name, you said that anonymity does not make a statement any less valuable. While that may be correct, it certainly reduces the credibility. And why is 'discretion ..the better part of valor' when it comes to you remaining anonymous? Are you concerned about something or someone or hiding something?
Louis Herkalo
2:22 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
I like what you have to say. But you know that saying "an opinion is like an a_ _ _ _ _ e, everyone has one! I only speak fact when I comment! Fact is truth! You are not speaking mistruths or telling something that isn't true! What are you afraid of by using your real name? I've never had a problem. I write letters to the editor, etc. I'm not ashamed to let people know who I am & what I stand for!
Louis Herkalo
2:52 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
This is for "Not My Real Name" who is afraid to print his/her real name. Still can't understand why? What are you afraid of?? I'm going to comment on your comment to me with 3 words just using the 1st letter of each word: KMA!
Louis Herkalo
3:05 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
I want to thank you for that English lesson. I wadn't gud inn english inscoll. You are just plain rude. Find someone else to annoy. You are probably a little piss ant like the SuperMayor. It was nice talking with you & how did you say that acronym(must be a big word for you. I'm going to use another acronym! Goodbye, J.O.!
Mark W
6:21 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
Bart I do know you. While i agree that parking tickets or minor violations should not cause one to resign I do feel this a lack of fiduciary responsibility. And Mr. Barnett we should trust. As far as the Congress you bring up may I remind you they have a 10% approval rating.Bart, Mr. Barnett should do what is best for Springfield not the Democratic Party and resign since people will not trust him. As for why this didn't come up in the campaign if you look at the SEC filing it was dated Dec.18
BART FRAENKEL
7:27 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
Mark W, if you know me then you'd know that what I said is honestly how I feel. Again, I'm not disagreeing with your assessment and opinion, I was just stating that many people in political office have recent indiscretions that were resolved, but occurred none the less. I do agree with you that people should have trust in their elected officials. The question I think you're really asking is what would the position of the Democratic Party be if this situation happened with an incoming Republican member. I was implying, there should be 1 set of rules that everyone follows, without exception. So if a DUI isn't reason for a political party complaining about a TC member, then this shouldn't be either and visa versa. Personally, I think anyone who is found guilty of a crime other then parking tickets or minor violations should either be removed or disallowed from holding office. Unfortunately that will never happen and also the legal system creates loopholes for people because in many cases a guilty judgement is never rendered and cases are pled out without guilt being assigned.
Mark W
8:12 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
Bart we agree on everything you said with one exception. Mr.Barnett in my opinion only, can not be trusted because he compromised his fiduciary responsibility as you stated I wish this came up during the campaign. Both parties democrat and republicans make mistakes and I hope you will be as vocal in 2013. Happy New Year to you and all Springfield residents
Mark W
8:17 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
To Stop Complaining so much Wish I could be there at the swearing in ceremony but I have a family commitment. I hope someone will bring this matter up.Interested to see what Mr. Amlen's take on this will be.
brrr
11:32 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
B FREEMAN I CANT TELL WHERE YOUR NOSE BEGINS AND ZIADS BUTT ENDS LOL. BROWNNOSER HEHE!
BFreeman
4:25 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
I also watched some of the mtg online. I'm embarrassed and ashamed be a republican today. Mr shehady behaved like a child and looked like a fool. tried to support him because of my party affiliation initially and i thought he had good energy, but I cannot any longer. I know his games of personal destruction and toxic motives will not help our town. His immaturity was at an all time high today at that meeting which looked like a full room with mention of many politicians ( Munoz, bramnick, etc). Its a sad day for our town. he is an embarrassment and he has no right to even mention Barnett's settlement if what others have said is true about his own problems with the law. Why is that lady not asking him to resign too with an alleged DUI? Is that really true? i had never heard about that so i don't want to speculate. I also don't remember reading about that in the news. The reason nobody from the patch comments spoke up at the meeting is obvious. Most of the people who comment on the patch must be Shehady. People have been saying this for a long time. I believe it now.
Louis Herkalo
1:36 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Yes it is public record that he was arrested for DUI in Hillside. Then he did not show up for a court date & was arrested for Failure to Appear! He thinks he's above the law. When I first posted it he called me, telling me he was going to sue me!! I told to go right ahead. I had the court disposition in my hand that was given to me. All you have to do is go to Hillside's Mun. Bldg. & get a copy!!
stephen
4:47 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Funny how suddenly Shehady supporters have the courage to post now - your alleged "support" is as real as all the other false allegations. What's really disturbing is how you're quick to call him immature whenever you disagree with what he says. I'm sure he's losing sleep over losing your respect. By the same logic that everyone who commented on the Patch must be Shehady because no one spoke up, everyone on the Patch commented against him must be Bruce, Bart, David and the Democrats - that's clear to see. I praise him for his courage and conviction to speak up and highlight the amateurs in a crowded room of their friends. Keep calling him a child - how long is that going to last? Your insults are proof of who is really acting immature and like children. If he's supposed to sit up there and play along with whatever they want him to do and not disagree, then "immature" and "child" is what Springfield needs - not crooks and cowards. Lay off him already.
stephen
4:59 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
And after that lady spoke, I heard lots of applause for her comments - seems the supporters were there but when it's clear that the new majority is going to dismiss anything a resident has to say and yell at them for commenting or be chastised by the "former Township Attorney", why bother repeating what's been said? That's why I didn't speak. I was in the back with about 7 of my friends - all of us went with the intention of speaking but what's the point in the face of the arrogance of those Democrats.
The Voice of Reason
5:13 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
@BFreeman-I agree with you regarding the embarrassment of Mr. Shehady. I am also a registered republican, but I voted for the dems. I did not like immaturity coming from all three in their comments and actions. I also took note of the poor campaign literature from the republicans that came to my house. Character counts in public office as far as I'm concerned. I'm thinking of changing from republican to independent, but what good would that do? As far as the DUI, if I remember correctly, it happened in another town in Union Co. You wouldn't have read about it unless you read that towns police blotter. I'm sure it was known in political circles throughout the county. He disappeared for several months which did not go unnoticed. The absence was explained away as part of his reserve obligations. This is what I've heard. You can probably get that information through a public records search. There are ways of getting driver abstracts and police reports. I thought of doing it, but it is not worth my time and energy. In my mind, I don't need anything else to discredit him.
stephen
5:25 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Wow, with the amount of people claiming to be registered Republicans posting on here you'd think we were Westfield or Texas, certainly not Springfield. I'm surprised at all the alleged Republicans in town especially when Springfield has been electing Democrats for over 20 years.
stephen
5:57 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
What I find hard to believe is that anyone takes any of you seriously. I'm going back to observation mode - your actions and vitriol on these forums is disgusting. People sign their name (like Mr. Strumpf) and get jumped all over. People don't sign their name and get jumped all over. The only people who seem to get a pass are the ones who have something nasty to say about Mayor Shehady. Everyone sees the bias here, and I'm not biased in his favor but it is disgusting and telling of the character of Democratic supporters who shamelessly attack him at every opportunity. Mr. Amlen's acceptance speech today was absolutely correct with regards to the nature of partisan politics. It seems to be coming very heavily from his own team. People like Mr. Groder and Mr. Herkalo are obviously being used as mouthpieces so the Democrats can "officially" distance themselves from the dirty politics they play but the town sees it which is why they didn't win by the same margin as President Obama. I'm not a blind follower of Ziad but I take a back seat and observe town affairs very carefully. I'll go back to that lest I be hunted down with pitchforks and torches by the animals on here. And no, I'm not Ziad - there's witnesses to that.
Louis Herkalo
1:17 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Stephen,
I wish I could be used as a mouthpiece for the Democrats! Problem is I live over 1,300 miles away from Springfield now! But I lived in Springfield for 51 yrs. and saw all the dirty politics played by the Republican party. The biggest joke of all who was on the TC was Marc Marshall. He thought he was the biggest thing next to Ronald Regan! His ego was so large, He even got a license plate that said EX-MAYOR. Just a little note for you! I am an independent. I vote for whomever is going to get the job done! Hope you are staying warm in Springfield!!
Mark W
6:05 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
B. Freeman, I called for Mr. Barnett to resign but was not able to attend the meeting because of family obligations. I am a 57 year old resident and not the mayor so you do not know what you are saying. As for the mayor if he did what was said here he needs to grow up for the good of Springfield cause it will be a long year for him
SpringfieldTruth
6:27 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Stop Complaining So Much, we know you never liked ZAS so don't pretend like the rest of them. I'm not claiming you're a Democratic supporter because we all know how Jeff Rosenberg and his wife Hope only pander to the political party that will help their real estate business but from your history on here, it's clear you never liked him at all. And Jeff, didn't your wife get appointed to a Rent Committee of some sort today? We're supposed to think you two are objective? So much for anonymity. You're right, there is great entertainment value with these posts.
SpringfieldTruth
6:39 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Cute response, Jeff. Keeping up the entertainment I guess. The proof is on the Patch. Changed your alias a few times already, time to do it again? Just go with your real name Jeff, take a lesson from your son. Wasn't your wife one of the appointments ZAS voted against? I'm sure being on a Committee with an inside track on renters and landlords is good for your business. Is that part of the way he conducted himself that turned you off?
RS
8:04 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Boy this Barnett settlement publicity is really backfiring on Shehady. I had no idea about shehady's DUI and honestly I'm more shocked about that than the SEC Barnett thing. How did he hide A DUI? Did it happen when he was in office? Just unbelievable!
Louis Herkalo
9:29 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
RS, yes he was on the TC when he was arrested for the DUI in Hillside(I have already put this in a few of my comments & also while he was running for re-election). He was also arrested for failure to appear! Because of his arrogance he feels that he's above the law. Well, he learned the hard way! People do make mistakes & gets a DUI, even if they blow a .08. Most people learn from their mistakes, pay their fines & do whatever other steps the Judge hands down. Not in Ziad's case. He decided he wan't going to go to the court hearing!..This is all public record. Someone brought me a copy of the Hillside Couurt's disposition during his re-election campaign. When I posted it on The Patch, Ziad became very angry. Callled me at my home telling me he was going to sue me,etc. I told him to go right ahead because I had a sheet of paper that was fact & I was not making it up to defame him! I'll say it again. If the Democrats pressed the DUI issue, Ziad Sheehady probably would not have been made Mayor again when he was re-elected due to the amount of votes he won by!!
Louis Herkalo
9:41 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
RS, I forgot to put one thing that you asked about. Sheehady WAS on the TC when those arrests did occur. I've said this in another comment & it's just rumor but I heard Ziad actually lives in Hillside! DUI in Hillside, live in Hillside. A coincidence? That he uses his parent's address on Meisel Ave(S. Springfield Ave.?) to be able to sereve in Springfield. Again, this is just a rumor!!
Louis Herkalo
9:43 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
anon, no one knew about those! Someone from the Local Source contacted me for information & a copy of the Court Disposition!
SpringfieldTruth
10:27 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
yea it turned into a high-speed car chase through 5 towns. i think shehady hit a fruit stand and punched a police officer. he ended up spending a month in jail.
Louis Herkalo
6:39 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013
I hope someone who reads your disgusting post that had a family member killed by a drunk driver, hunts you down & gives you a beating so bad, that you are disfigured for the rest of your life!!
SpringfieldTruth
10:28 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
the secret hillside house is to throw off the feds so they don't look into shehady's swiss bank accounts and his new york city penthouse.
Louis Herkalo
6:33 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013
Another idiotic reply by simply an idiot!
Louis Herkalo
6:40 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013
Thanks for the comment Ziad!
David Biebelberg
10:36 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
This trail of posts is incredibly bizarre. The only post with any sense of intelligence, insight and thoughtfulness was written by the person who posts under the name Brett. Separately, this whole hullabaloo concerning Mr. Barnett is shameful. I do not stand in judgement of Mr. Barnett. I do not know him. That said, whomever it is that decides who the candidates for TC will be, clearly and unequivocally decided: 1) that it's perfectly OK for someone with this unfortunate history to serve on the TC, and 2) the information is best withheld from voters. Horribly bad judgement. As for Shehady, the fact that he tried to run monthly meetings and get business done, without every yahoo in town telling him how to do his job does not, in my view, make him immature. I have attended enough TC meetings to know that at some point an intelligent person's patience will expire listening to some of the people who feel they must be heard. At some point it becomes painful sitting in the audience.
BART FRAENKEL
11:57 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
David, I'm curious who knew about the situation and when, since the link that was posted regarding the issue with Mr. Barnett shows the complaint was officially filed on Dec. 17.
In regard to your comments about Shehady, my only disagreement with your statement is that the way he tried to run the monthly meetings did not provide for the same equality among the TC members as the township committee form of government affords them. He ran the meetings so that only his agenda was discussed and that is what I have disagreed with. As long as the proper format is used and its fair and open, I will always be able to live with the results. But the deck was stacked the way he did things and that is what I disliked. If the charter study commission determines a directly elected mayor is the best way for Springfield to proceed in the future, then the way he conducted the meetings will be okay. But not until that happens.
Michael S. Dzikowski
1:25 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
David Barnett is unbelievable! http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2012/comp... SEC Complaint 12/17/2012... According to the complaint alleging fraud, falsification of records, scam transactions, backdating of contracts, etc. for personal gain, David Barnett did not admit or deny guilt, but did agree to pay a $130,000 fine and, agreed to not serve as an officer or director of a public company for 10 years!!! But,,, he's still a SPRINGFIELD, NJ COMMITTEEMAN!... Mr. Barnett declined to speak in detail about the charges or the penalties, citing terms of the settlement with the SEC.(?!?) He did say that he was aware of the SEC’s investigation...starting in 2008! Barnett, who has been Chairman of the township’s Democratic Party committee for “a couple of years,” said the SEC’s findings of FRAUD and the settlement would have NO BEARING on his ability to serve as an elected committeeman!!!! “I think the issue is IRRELEVANT,” he said Friday to a Star Ledger Reporter!!! People of NJ! Are we all stupid?!! Please resign Mr. Barnett!!! Your lack of candor, integrity and your inherent conflicts of interest are at a minimum, a disgrace to the people of New Jersey, more likely a crime!......
Michael S. Dzikowski
11:26 am on Monday, January 7, 2013
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2012/2012-270.htm http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2012/12/newly_elected_springfield_comm.html
http://www.elec.state.nj.us/aboutelec.htm
Mr. Barnett,
"The essence of Democracy is an informed electorate. It is the fulfillment of this goal which the New Jersey Election Law Enforcement Commission (ELEC) embraces as its valued mission". We are now informed of your background and deeply disappointed. Please resign.
SEC Complaint 12/17/2012... According to the complaint alleging fraud, falsification of records, scam transactions, backdating of contracts, etc. for personal gain, David Barnett did not admit or deny guilt, but did agree to pay a $130,000 fine and, agreed to not serve as an officer or director of a public COMPANY for 10 years!!! But,,, he's still a SPRINGFIELD, NJ COMMITTEEMAN with responsibilities for NJ "Public Funds"!!...Disgraceful!
M.S.Dzikowski
Michael S. Dzikowski
9:55 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
People of Springfield:
You may find this David Barnet alleged fraud story in need of follow-up! I tried to reach Jim Cramer (CNBC stock commentator and major stockholder of “TheStreet, Inc.” “TST”) for input on Barnett's scam but he has not yet responded. Mr. Barnett was again just elected to the Springfield, NJ Township Committee . A controversy of his financial duties with Springfield's "public funds" has begun due to his SEC Settlement never being disclosed to Springfield voters prior to the election. Mr. Barnett had acknowledged his awareness of the SEC investigation since 2008 but he considers the matter irrelevant. The voters are very disturbed that Mr. Barnett, after paying a $130,000 penalty, and accepting a 10 year ban on being an officer or director of any public company (apparently not a public municipality!) has not resigned and, his new Democratic controlled Committee (3 of 5) has yet to publicly discuss or rationalize Mr. Barnett’s continued duties on Springfield’s Finance committee. Thank you for your interest in this important matter....
Michael S. Dzikowski